Bob Gollihur - Gollihur Music
Bob Gollihur

Gollihur Music - Upright Bass Specialists
"Double Bass Pickup and Microphone Systems, Strings, Electric and Acoustic Upright Basses, Amplifiers, Accessories, Parts, and more..."

Mark Gollihur - Gollihur Music
Mark Gollihur

HACKER SAFE certified sites prevent over 99.9% of hacker crime.



UPRIGHT BASS SPECIALISTS... ON THE WEB SINCE 1997
Home Page

Gollihur Music - Upright Bass Specialists
BROWSE PRODUCTS
Accessories
Amplifiers & Speakers
Basses:
  Upright
  Electric Upright
Bows & Rosin
Bridges
Audio/Speaker Cables
Double Bass Cases
Books and DVDs
Double Bass Parts
Pickups/Mics For:
  Upright Bass
  Acoustic Guitar
  Other Instruments
Preamps & Processors
Stands
Strings

SPECIALS
856-292-3194
10am-7pm
Eastern Time


or mail check/MO




INFO
Ordering Information
Contact Us
Warranty Info
Who's Bob?
  About Gollihur Music

RESOURCES
Upright Bass FAQs
  Questions and Answers
Double Bass Links
Bass Luthier List
   Repair-persons Directory
Join Our Mailing List
Bass Classified Ads
Product Manuals


SECURE SHOPPING
HACKER SAFE certified sites prevent over 99.9% of hacker crime.

Bookmark and Share

PREAMPS: Do You NEED a Preamp with Your URB Pickup?
Do You Need a Preamp?

Your amp or other device you plug your pickup into will determine that -- the input impedance of the amp affects how a pickup sounds.

Piezo (most common) and similar acoustic instrument pickups are very different from the magnetic pickups you find in electric guitars and basses, and most amps are aimed at that market. Keep in mind that when you plug something into an amplifier, it becomes part of the circuit, and that circuit is designed for a specific impedance range. If there is a mismatch, problems result. There are three general impedance values, as follows:
  • Most bass amplifier inputs usually aim for around 50,000 ohms, which is considered "high impedance" -- electric guitar/bass pickups and general use dynamic microphones' impedances are designed to be compatible with that input impedance.
  • Low impedance (like condenser mics and higher quality mics with XLR connectors (three pins inside a circular shell) match best with an input around 600 ohms.
  • Piezo transducers want an input load in the 1-10 million+ ohms (1-10 megohms) range. ULTRA-High impedance.
So it's no wonder odd things happen. They can also often have a frequency response bump that further contributes to the odd sound -- that brittle, raspy, all highs and no lows sound that makes you think you have a bad pickup. Probably not -- you just need a buffering/impedance matching preamp. You can improve the sound by EQ'ing it to death, but it still isn't the same. See my FAQ on OHMS & IMPEDANCE from the INPUT perspective for further details.

A preamp is placed between the bass pickup and the input of your amplifier:

Preamp with Upright Bass

Here are some reasons why you should have or should consider using a preamp between the pickup and amplifier:
  • the input impedance specification of your amplifier is under 1 megohm
    ...also expressed as 1,000,000 ohms or 1Mohm; being close to that value, like 800K, is usually ok. This is probably the most common reason for using a preamp.

  • there are features available from the preamp that are not on your amp, that can enhance or help with problems
    ...like more precision or flexible tone controls, phase reversal, a DI output, high pass filter, etc.

  • you want/need a convenience volume control (and tone controls?) close to you, for when your amplifier is not at your feet
    since at higher volumes you will likely need to place the amplifier further away from you, so avoid feedback and other undesirable sounds

  • your pickup's output is very low, so you need a preamp to increase its signal level to better match your amplifier
Even with an amp that seems to handle the ultra-high impedance of a piezo pickup, I often like the buffering/matching effect of a preamp, and I think in most cases they are necessary for the best and most realistic-sounding results. They can also give you convenient control of volume and tone without having to move towards your amp, which can cause feedback problems depending on volume. I have experimented and found the Bass Max can be more "acceptable" without a preamp, but the Double Big Twin really benefits/needs a preamp for best results. Acceptable? that's a call you'll have to make - if you buy without a preamp, try to borrow one to try.

I've also experimented with the K&K Twin Spot on my old '27 "the gibson" tenor guitar, and while it is more acceptable than the bass pickup experience (it's tuned very high), the warmth and improved character that a preamp adds confirms my personal decision to never plug into an amp without one, unless it is designed to handle the ultra-high impedances of piezo-based pickups.

So, unless you have one of those special amps* that are designed to accommodate piezo pickups, I suggest that you use some sort of buffering preamp with any piezo pickup, or you won't be getting everything these and other pickups have to offer. Some "stomp boxes," when not in bypass mode (turned off) and other preamps may be ok; check the input impedance specification of your device. If it is 1 megohm or higher, it should do the buffering/matching job.


The Fine Print: The information contained herein is based on what's in my brain and/or my opinions as of today and is subject to change. Like any topic, a great deal more information could be added—but the intent of these writings is to present easy to understand, quick FAQs, to address common questions and improve the reader's general knowledge. What's written here is by no means the authoritative absolute answer, I am not the world's greatest authority on bass (not even close), or on anything else for that matter. I hope the information and opinions here are helpful to you, that's the point!

I welcome email with dissenting and additional viewpoints that help improve my personal awareness and the content pages. If you have a question that you think belongs here, please let me know.
Bob

Product Associated With This FAQ

K&K Sound Bass Max Upright Bass Pickup (transducer)
K&K Banjo Twin Musical Instrument Pickup
K&K Violinissimo Musical Instrument Pickup
K&K Sound Pure Piano Pickup
David Gage Realist Pickup for Double Bass (Original and Wood Version)
Fishman Full Circle Upright Bass Pickup
K&K Sound Pure Pickup for Tenor Guitar and Acoustic Bass Guitar
K&K Sound Pure Pickup Acoustic Guitar Pickup for Steel or Nylon String (Classical) Guitar
K&K Sound Double Big Twin Upright Bass Pickup
Fishman BP-100 Upright Bass Pickup
K&K Sound Pure Preamp
Fishman PRO-EQ II INSTRUMENT preamp
Dual Channel Pro Instrument Preamplifier
K&K Sound Pure XLR Preamp
LR Baggs Venue DI - Preamp Pedal with Built-in Tuner
LR Baggs Para DI Acoustic Preamp/DI with EQ and Notch Filter
LR Baggs Gigpro Single-Channel Belt-pack Preamp
David Gage Realist SoundClip Upright Bass Pickup
This page, all HTML code, and all images, photos and descriptions © copyright 1997—2012. All rights reserved.